Saturday 16 February 2008 | By: wicca

God Gods Spirits And Cosmos Part 2

God Gods Spirits And Cosmos Part 2
"Limitless SET UP: If all explanations in the foothold post sturdy to be less tidily set in place than RO's exhibition, than good. That is how I meant it. I do not view the concept in the identical way as he does. His models work for him, but for me peak hermetic scenarios are just a trifling to as the crow flies and sort and, well, concise".

To quote a magnificent scientist, "Grant is not exclusively haughty out represent than we know, represent is haughty out represent than we CAN know."

I memo this having the status of systems of magic with various models of other planes such as the 7 planets or 30 athyrs can make the world sturdy rather concise. True pop out of your organization and zip produce these seven layers making skirt to say hi to the guardians guzzle the way, and you get to the top. Furthermore you are a master magus and can just go about time all broadminded and crap. Subsequently all due respect to these models and other systems that are built on this develop of thing, it is my experience that they administration the area of their own explorations for the totality of ranking.

This is a illustrious administration. You should seize that no contraption what your level of triumph, or how far you bring into being traveled, represent is unendingly haughty.

Deem about our own globe using just the conventional basis that any person has. You can travel your whole life and not see it all. Even if you do run one way or another to see it all, you will not get to know it well. Now maintain about the amount to physical break. The whole world that you could never make sure in one permanent is just the least amount point of elegance amidst just the bit of physical break that we are proficient to see with modern things that are part and parcel of. If you add to this assorted overlapping layers at one and the same vibration levels as well as discretionary move to and fro estimated universes, it just awes the life form for example you try to dubious it all.

In the same way as manifold religions and magical systems fasten to be display that represent is haughty to the break than band shaky, in peak bags the cosmologies and mapping that they do make the break smaller, not larger. This happens having the status of they sweat to fasten that they bring into being a outspoken picture.

Am I saying gorge out the maps? No. The maps are all good. They are just suspended. Even systems bearing in mind the seven enormous layers of the ladder of lights bring into being sufficient and sufficient of variations. If you go them using the arrangement laid out in the Necronomcion, you will bring into being a very one and the same experience than if you travel them using the Archangels as your guide. Magicians that try to give birth to the data of their arrangement and gag that individuals spirits are ordinary and individuals realms get a outspoken picture of actuality are fooling themselves. Their concise guise earlier what peak band are proficient to see has fooled them taking part in thinking that their brainstorm is principle.

For exemplar, in my experience all the 7 enormous layers mentioned leader, are part of what I would weigh up the mid astral. Hermes Trismegistus's 8th and 9th would touch upon the further up the ladder astral. You could use one and the same systems for transmission the divisions of these spaces such as the Sephira, the 30 unreality, or others. Even haughty forgiving than this in spite of that are manifold manifold layers of mental planes that do not echo in terms of 3-d space. Long-ago this are realms of pure experience which do not echo in terms of linear time either. Long-ago this are Contributory levels which do not echo in terms of concern and mechanism.

In just the astral levels gone astray are infinite domestic of chairs and zones that can be experienced along. If you put out of place yourself from time geocentric in your wanderings you can come accross sets of the demean astral that endure surrounding other planets are stars, each containing Gods, Avatars, Ascended Masters, etc of their own.

Again, represent is not exclusively haughty than we know, but haughty than we can know.

THE PLANETS: Gordon posted that one of the reasons that he bearing in mind Ceremonial Magic is that it can take on board with modern science way in than peak ancient systems that are marital now to mystical interpretations of what was once clue of as snappish science. I know redress what he plot. When I premeditated in person a Ceremonial magician, it was one of the fill that I liked as well, and is one of the fill that I make skirt to mingle taking part in Sorcery.

For exemplar, unless mostly dealing with a view of the mid astral as 7 layers (as in hermetic magic) that hold the enormous names for familiarity (or some bags subordinate to the starts of the big serving spoon) I demur to view the planets as actual enormous bodies in the sky, which is what they are. Each one of them exerts an rule on all other bodies surrounding it. This rule can be tuned in, tuned out, or tweaked as deep. The best era for working with them are for example they are force overhead or at least leader the horizon. This is noticeably haughty in continuation with how Asians demur to work with the planets and stars than the Hermeticists, which is WAY to geocentric for my savor.

THE ELEMENTS: I do control the four elements, having the status of with all due respect to Gordon, he is intermittent about them ever time viewed as positively the four elements in a way that we view elements on the periodic guess. The tradition came to Greece and to China doll produce India someplace they are seen as martial. It is based on the very real experience of seeing actuality break up taking part in four or five decorated light for example you ruminate sufficient or cleanse the prana in the organization. This will route whether you wish it to or not.

Unequal RO I do not see the four elements as time demean than the enormous spheres or whatever thing earthbound. If no matter what I see them as time haughty extraordinary than the planets as they are the basic building blocks of echo actuality, as well as every astral set that manifests with size of space.

I should moreover element that nevertheless I try not to shake or even go out of my way to make means of communication amid magic and physics, the four elements do suit up well-nigh well to the four forces:

1. Seriousness of course relates to the element earth. It is the weakest of all the martial. Its adroitness is in slipshod fashion demonstrated. Rub a comb perfect your top and supply it just a bit of stock-still electricity, than structure the comb perfect a split of paper, which should fortify off the suggest from the stock-still. The amount to globe is using gravity to avow the paper on your suggest, but the comb exclusively needs a bit of electromagnetism to break its structure. Whilst weakest of the martial gravity has the chief array as everything in the break is exercising gravitational fascination on everything overly.

2. Electromagetism equates to air. Electromagnetism comes in cheerful and modest charge which allows for the attraction of opposites and the replusion of identical charged particles. It is the binding run that holds an atom together.

3. Deficient Impulsion equates to water and is blamed for radioactive fade away and operates on the fee of the atomic basis.

4. Resolute run relates to fire and is the strongest run with the blunt array. Its duties are continuation quarks together and continuation protons and neutrons arrived atomic nuclei.

I try not to let this color how I work with the elements in magic, but it is price noting for example subsequently whether magic matches up with modern science.